Sam Lessin, who writes the Modest Proposals column for The Information, is starting a new podcast series called Modest Conversations. In the first episode, Dave Morin joins Sam for a conversation on what they call digital drugs. The two explore how things like VR could be thought of as platforms for therapeutics and recreation, rather than simply games or mirroring reality. Among the questions: How will the FDA think about digital drugs? What will happen as technology opens up more pathways to alter mental states?